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Friedberg is such a GOAT. I’ve listened to every single All In episode - he was my least favorite when I started and I groaned like Sacks when science corner started - 5 years later he is without a doubt the only one who I hang off of every word. Dude is such a great thinker and so objective. If I were gay, I 100% would, he’s the freaking man.

Friedberg is goated for his science conversations.

Guys dad was a fireman and his mom stayed at home. Underrated parent structure.

I understood 0% but loved 100% of this chat

I love All IN videos when we don't have to deal with the traffic cop...Jcal.

Fantastic interview, will share this with a ton of my friends because this is awesome

These interviews are the best of All In!

I took quantum with John Martinis at UCSB. One of my favorite professors of all time.

What great 50 minutes on YT, it doesn’t get much better than this, thank you @David Friedberg!

Studied physics in school, was kinda tough getting a job out the other side but, I regret nothing. How these guys talk to each other is how my buddies and I conversed every single day. Tons of people who are just interested in how the world works and don’t care about much else.

YEEEEEES SCIENCE CORNER!!! ❤

Quantum stocks have gone absolutely parabolic and honestly ridiculous. D-Wave Quantum up over 3,600% YTD. Rigetti Computing up over 5,400% YTD. Bubble anyone?

I remember in my GRE exam having to write an essay about research that does not immediately lead to something practical and tangible. The question was - should such work be funded? It is almost impossible to predict at any time what and when an investment in research that is still scantly understood will produce a payback. That is why research for research sake is definitely not a bad idea.

THIS IS AWESOME!! thank you David for doing this!!

What a great interview. Explained it so well that an 80 year old, with no math, could understand a good 70%. Thank you.

This is the third time I've watched this interview. John Martinis is one of the most interesting guests Friedberg has ever had on his podcast. Thank you so much for inviting him, Friedberg. Thank you for accepting, Mr. Martinis!

David, OMG, this was good. Everything I'd heard and read was like a black box... Master Martinis took us all inside the box. Please have him back periodically. You were the perfect person for this interview. Thank you both. SoCalFreddy

Excellent, Deployed Worldwide Through My Deep Learning AI Research Library… Thank You 🙏 ❤

Soo looking forward to hearing!!!

This guys voice is incredible

* [00:00] Introduction to John Martinis, the 2025 Nobel Prize winner in Physics. * [00:55] Martinis's background, growing up in San Pedro, and his early interest in science and building things. * [02:05] His experience at UC Berkeley and deciding to work on quantum mechanics in graduate school. * [03:14] The fundamental question posed by Nobel laureate Anthony Leget that inspired his work: "Do macroscopic objects behave quantum mechanically?" * [05:02] A basic explanation of quantum mechanics, describing the "fuzzy" and probabilistic nature of particles at the atomic scale. * [09:11] What is quantum tunneling? (The concept of particles passing through a solid barrier). * [11:12] Discussing the experiment to test quantum mechanics on a larger, macroscopic electrical circuit. * [15:22] The Josephson junction, the key component of the experiment, which involves two superconductors. * [16:21] An explanation of how superconductors work, where electrons condense into a single state and can flow without resistance. * [21:00] The groundbreaking results: By measuring discrete energy frequencies, the experiment proved that a macroscopic object (the circuit) obeyed the laws of quantum mechanics. * [23:09] The reception of the research paper when it was published around 1985. * [24:52] How a talk by famed physicist Richard Feynman inspired Martinis to dedicate his career to quantum computing. * [27:36] Martinis's career path after graduate school, including his work at Google's quantum lab. * [29:55] The 2019 "quantum supremacy" experiment, which used 53 qubits. * [30:33] A simple explanation of what a qubit is and how it relates to his original Josephson junction work. * [33:04] The long-term impact of his Nobel-winning research, which essentially created the field of superconducting quantum computing. * [35:53] The current state of quantum computing and the challenges of noise and errors. * [37:30] Speculation on the timeline for when useful quantum computers will be available. * [38:41] The potential role of AI in accelerating progress in quantum computing. * [40:54] A comparison of quantum computing progress in the US versus China. * [44:04] The story of how he found out he had won the Nobel Prize. * [47:15] Other technology fields he finds exciting, such as using superconducting detectors to find exoplanets.

Cal physics grad here - fantastic interview!

such a good episode!!! im honestly stunned at how much i am learning

Love the science podcasts, hope we get more. Unfortunately I found it hard to follow some of John's answers but having Friedberg step in to clarify helped

This makes me want to go back to university for a quantum physics program

Great conversation :) reminds me of the FromFirstPrinciplesPod ! Please collab Friedberg

Good Stuff

Awesome!

Great video. No simping for a change is nice in your videos.

Friedberg can hang with all the BIG BOYS in science and technology. He's such an asset to All In. He does the most meaningful and in-depth interviews. Thank you for this one. If it comes down to talking about MONEY or SCIENCE, I'll take science. Science Corner is the best part of the podcast and gets the least attention. I wish they'd start with FRIEDBERG'S segment. He's talking about the future, not just the money spent and made. Fascinating stuff. Thanks again.

the cat can be in an irrevocable state of dying where some of the cat is and some of the cat is not - but it tends more towards either alive or dead at any given moment - so here we have the superposition of the cat - finally we figured out what's up with cats. All joking aside this research is so incredible - it lends right into Penrose:Figgin on consciousness and the wave function.

What a delightful episode. Thanks Friedberg and congratulations to John.

Nice to see we have a whole episode devoted to Science Corner.

What a great interview Friedberg. Mr. Martinis is the living stereotype of a great scientist. I loved that he got triggered early by Feynman. He certainly appears to have the same energy and passion for building and discovery. Wonderful job.

He's so pure and charming

John Matthew Martinis describes himself as of Croatian descent, his mother being from United States and his father being an ethnic Croat from Komiža on the island of Vis near Split, Croatia.

What I learnt is that the probability of the interviewer going through a wall is not 0. So it's 0.trilliongazillionzoroes or smaller, but it's not 0 😅

agree... superbly done in a comfortable conversation, thx

Dr. Martinis, congratulations on your recent recognition and on the extraordinary arc of your work. At the 27:00 mark, your mention of Shor’s Fourier transforms immediately brought to mind Green and Schwarz resolving string anomalies with the mirrored 496. That moment of balance has stayed with me for years. I have been developing a regenerative wave geometry I once called Time’s Arrow, now Christ’s Arrow, which proposes that the wave function itself may be an algorithm embedded in the field Richard Feynman described. Not empty space, but a living, fluctuating substrate from which gravity, tunneling, orbit, and even language emerge. My approach has been unconventional. History, linguistics, and cultural artifacts were used as probes alongside physics and math. Surprisingly, they converged. From Euclid’s unresolved fifth postulate, through Einstein’s curved surfaces, to quantum tunneling and macro systems, the same pattern repeats. Orbits, cycles, counting systems, and symbols appear to be echoes of a quantum field origin. When you spoke about Google’s interest in modeling and AI integration, it struck me as fertile ground for overlap. If computation is learning to model reality, then the field itself must be part of the story. I would be honored to explore this intersection with your team, not just to advance quantum computing, but to help frame it within a coherent, human narrative that unites physics, computation, and meaning. Thank you for your work, and for pointing toward what may finally be within reach.

Tijekom ovoga mjeseca, prosinca, primit će Te , poštovani John M. Martinis , Nobelovu nagradu za fiziku; za otkrće makroskopskog kvantno - mehaničkog tuneliranja i kvantizaciju energije u električnom sklopu; zajedno dodijeljenu i Johnu Clarkeu i Michaelu Devortu. Čestitam svima trima i posebice Vama gospodine John Martinis, čiji su korijeni hrvatski. 🌹 Hrvatska ima moralnu i intelektualnu obvezu prepoznati svoje korijene u Vašoj osobi, poštovani profesore Martinis te osigurati da mlade generacije shvate kako iz ove zemlje može potjecati doprinos koji mijenja svijet. Nemojmo zaboraviti da je i hrvatsko- američki izumitelj i vizionar Nikola Tesla, rodom iz hrvatskih Smiljana, doprinijeo znanosti elektrotehnike i strojarstva. Hvala Vam profesore, gospodine John M. Martinis zahvalna: dr.sc. Dina Marković

Thank you, Dr. John Martin — and thank you for the podcast! Stories like these truly inspires us to pursue science with full energy and commitment!

quantum mechanics is the mathematics and the NATURE of the PIXELS and RENDERING of the SIMULATION we are stuck inside aand how theyre supposed to operate, but nothing is solid nothing is matter, its all energy at the quantum levels

Surely you're joking, Mr. Friedberg!

Great podcast! Mr. David Friedberg and Mr. John Martinis are awesome! Thank you.

I'm enjoying this pivot on the all in podcast. I did stop watching the classic all in for some reason but I am keen for more of this style!

Fascinating! With no Science background, I was enthralled to hear all the descriptions & ideas. Wow.

Super helpful to get an idea of the field. Thank you!

Awesome episode

All in is the best podcast to surf the wave of progress on wverything.Thanks.

great interview, thank you

Wow, good work.🙂

Goat

Thank you everyone. We are all in together. Anything else better move aside. Yesterday. Congratulations to all nobel prize winners ❤ Am not smart enough to understand… am responsible to appreciate. Noble has a prize… it just doesn’t have trophy the same higher standards. However Nobel or Noble wise up as if a line is being drawn somewhere amongst us all. It is All in means something else there

I'm interested to know how they defined quantum tunneling to be a different entity than induction, or excitation? Was a displacement of mass measured? How do you know the electrons weren't emitted from across the barrier as a photoelectric effect? thanks

Damn 10 years away

Like the old way to do things.

its because consciousness is quantum by divine design matrices....

2:37- I went to Gerkley for Bradge school

John Martinis is really fascinating and insightful, I’m very happy I had the chance to talk with him on my podcast as well, learned a lot from his discussions of quantum computing and other things

great to see you at UCSB

Congratulations...

8-10 years and we have public companies in the billions of dollars of valuations.

Thank you James and IA team, CTO, Mando and Marty - great info as always 🤘🥳🍀 Merry Xmas 🎄

Love david Freidberg! Thanks for this clear info! Almost understand this magic!

Lmao the Schrodinger’s cat explanation went right over everybody’s head unless you heard it 100 times😄

Congratulations to the winner. Well deserved. Science rocks! 🎉 But I still think that scientific research in the future should be conducted in a way that is less cruel to the animals involved. Science has to become more humane.

What would a gaming quantum computer rig be capable of is what I'm crazy about 😂

Whoa! Joe Namath for a second career went into Physics?😮 Can he still throw the old football?

So Great.. John Martinis .. Congratulations..

Great interview. A very stimulating conversation. Thank you!

what an amazing guy

Thankyou.

Congratulations to John Martinis! Surprised that our paths never crossed considering I've lived near San Pedro in the Torrance area for my entire life and worked at HP for 18 years and more broadly in the Test & Measurement / Semiconductor industry since I was a teenager. These podcasts are great! I do wish that there were more technical follow-ups, specifically on the nature of the measurement technology associated with qubit structure, modeling, and the latest superposition collapse measurement methodology.

I love the idea Friedberg doing his own Episodes. I was asking for this well over a year ago but stopped tacking All In not long after. Is this going to continue? 👏

Great background.

If Friedberg does his own podcast, I'll be the very first subscriber.

Congratulations Geo data link ❤

He speaks about complex ideas and their scientific applications and uses everyday language and emotions in his explanations. Somebody that would make the great unwashed ( like me) comfortable to sit down and have a beer with.

There's not a ghost of a chance I'll understand any of this, but since you're kind enough to put it together, I'm game to absorb as much as I can. I feel like an electron trying to pass through walls.

Richard Feynman promoted using quantum effects for calculations by proposing that a quantum system could simulate another quantum system. He argued that since nature is quantum, it's incredibly difficult to simulate its complex behavior with classical computers, but a quantum computer could do it efficiently. This idea led to the concept of quantum computation, where the computational power would come from quantum phenomena like superposition and interference.

Low temperature means low energy. People should figure out ways like Tesla to get rid of those GDDR high heat in NVDA toast boards.

Is it the temperature or the frequency of the temperature?

I m too dumb for this conversation :(

The “God Particle” makes it through! 😎🧟‍♀️

When Friedberg tries to explain to the audience, to those who are not noble prize winners in physics, he is constantly interrupted and cut-off.

12:12 that is not Schrödinger's cat. It's Schrödinger's furry😼

Could I walk through a wall as a microscopic object? Maybe the answer is in eastern mysticism. Were there is theknowledge of Sidhi's. Perhaps altered conciousness / the thought of being able to do something what changes the physical macroscopic objects outcome.

How do you see neuromorphic will fit in for AI?

How do humans store energy? Given we have the highest efficiency in capacity?

milarepa pass through wall hoow i need read his teaching

None of the other besties will watch this

Anybody else notice mr. Martinis sounds EXACTLY like detective Nick Valentine from Fallout 4 ??? I know this is just a sidetrack, a sidenote, but woah... he sounds exactly like him XDDD

Electrons are oscillating waves to be exact , if I’m not mistaken they have to use probability with QUANTUM PARTICLES BECAUSE YOUR DEAL With potential now , quantum particles can be waves at same form together to be something . atoms have there own frequency that’s dependent upon the rate the quantum particles are oscillating at

Thank you, Friedberg

Great job David, dedicated science corner ❤

This is fantastic

Thank You Mr Friedberg😊

Great One Friedberg!!

Great job david

what and amazing duo, most enjoyable, Thank you both

Friedbreg! Great interview man.

Cool! I could see this guy happily running a milling machine back in the day. He's a thinker

Thanks, I needed that.

Thank you Excellent

I thought I knew what a qubit was until this, thank you Mr Genius, that explanation was right on time

Science corner let's GO!

great video

this is great

setting aside a forum for Friedberg to brrrr; was the best investment decision for All-in!

Finally! Science corner and no politics, really looking fwd to listening to this one!

Wow, you can expect it from Friedberg!

Congratulations🌷

Nobel prize for factoring the number 21 🎉

Nobel CLOWNS AWARD!

Science!!

Burgerman is back 🙂

Seems like "gas to liquid" makes more sense than "gas to solid" for electrons in a superconductor, based on John's explanation of the supercurrent

Two curious men, just shootin the breeze. 😊

I hope one day quantum mechanics will allow us to pop the perfect bag of popcorn.

Good

Friedberg is in a different league than others in A-I-P …. He is so nice and humble not laughing at Chamath when ever dictator tries to look smart … Kudos to Friedberg!!

35:15 in the essence of his creation.

Where's my Nobel Prize, Michael Paul Joseph rivette, I've literally have broken all your physics, mathematics and science and string theory and went beyond, and you guys seem to be taking my Nobel Prize from me.

Yeah electrons basically on one side half phasing through like a ghost and boom it pops out the other end no explosion no drama just pure probability that’s why it’s called tunnelling like it straight through solid matter without even touching it crazy right and your team made that happen with the whole circuits not just electrons. That’s the real mindbender.

Marinis and his mentor Clarke are 2 of the 3 winners in Physics nobel prize winners, both from UC Berkeley. Guess where the nobel prize in chemistry for 2025 was awarded...yes, another UC Berkely professor. Go CAL, go Bears!

Absolutely! a really great discussion and explanation about what quantum mechanics is and how it has advanced! Just amazing!

Friedberg is a good argument to pay for internet each month

Would quantum tunneling be possible in an extremely cold environment, like Uranus for example?