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Well I think we can all agree after 15 mins that this is the shit show that Sacks did not anticipate getting himself in the middle of

Im half waiting for Tracey to say the DOW is over 50k

The fact that there are Epstein apologists is insane

Investigate Michael Tracey

Michael Tracey is a striking case of missing the forest for the trees.

Find someone that loves you like Michael Tracy loves Jeffrey Epstein

Solo Sacks. I need a glass of the finest wine in all the land for this!

* This was recorded prior to SCOTUS tariff decision - we will discuss next week!

Using the word mythology is using verbage that will divorce people from consequences.

Long time lover of All In, this is easily the low point. Tracey comes off badly and shouldn’t been allowed the floor unchallenged. Run this again when the boys aren’t on a ‘ski trip’ and get Whitney Webb on

What a disappointmen this podcast was, including David Sacks. All-In will claim they discussed the issue and that it's "settled" with this episode, even though most of it was polluted with Michael Tracey arguing over the most minute details when there were much more larger & pressing Epstein issues to be discussed.

Please do no ever invite Michael Tracey on again. Disgusting man

Hour of my life I'll never get back. Michael Tracey is the most 'content-less' person I've ever seen. Please never bring him back. He won't shut up and has nothing to say. You loast control of this one David.

Why is this video titled “Epstein Mythology”?

Thank you for having Saagar Enjeti on the show. Wish he could have presented without constant bizarre misrepresentations by the other guest.

How did you guys possibly think it was a good idea to give Michael Tracy this platform... this is probably the worst all-in podcast I've ever seen

Literally the first episode of the entire All In series that I could not watch the whole episode. That was painful and a joke. No moderation

Having Michael on was a genuine insult to your audience and a waste of our time. This is by far your worst episode and a terrible judgement call for the entire show.

I’m all for a lively debate, the talking over one another is a turn off.

Michael Tracey clearly has an agenda, then cherry picks info to bend public perception into thinking it’s all a hoax. He sounds like a total op.

What a coincidence that three besties all had ski trip guessing they wanted nothing to do with this show

Worst episode yet. Sacks cheap setup. Michael Tracey is an incredible loud bully puppet punk.

Wtf is this episode?

why not have an actual Epstein expert like Whitney Webb on instead of people like Michael Tracey who downplay Epstein's crimes?

Why are pedophiles being covered for? WTF is this?

This is exactly the example to show how difficult it is for the victims to get justice. As soon as they are not perfect, they are not victims.

This episode makes me want to avoid watching this podcast, it's pure damage control from the Epstein scandal.

Michael Tracey is only 37. Most shocking part of this video.

This Tracey fella monopolizes the convo and is very suspicious

This guy is running interference for the intelligence agencies….

Michael Tracy, thank you for the masterclass in how to sabotage a productive conversation

Michael Tracey is a paid fixer. R Kelly should have hired him

Michael Tracy is insufferable. At times I felt physical pain listening to him. He’s more angry at the media feeding frenzy and distortions than the shady stuff that did take place. He can’t see the forest ‘cause all those damn trees are in the way. And he doesn’t really want to. But Michael does have one point. Most allegations of pedophilia are wholly unsupported. While some girls were under age, the vast majority were consenting adults. You can argue back-and-forth, whether it was prostitution or not. Most of the underage girls were compensated years ago. They have no reason to speak out now. For everything else, the lack of prosecutable evidence is an obstacle to press charges, which explains the total lack of prosecutions. Still, there’s a hell of a lot of stinky stuff there worthy of investigation.

Why even invite Michael Tracey onto the show, to defend the Epstein class and Epstein himself? Thats a poor decision.

Wow this was horrifically difficult having to listen to this hack Michael defend almost everything Epte1n did and represented?

Michael Tracy is obviously on the take

I’m not going to sit here and be lied to about this for two hours. Enjoy.

Saagar hits the bullseye by destroying the “there was no network” narrative with concrete patterns: the justice system, intel markers, Wexner money, and elite protection. Tracey veers into hallucination‑level relativism by dismissing those patterns as “Epstein mythology,” while the documentation clearly points to more than one lone pervert. Sacks is narrowly, selectively outraged: he goes hard after Hoffman and Dem‑aligned elites but soft‑pedals the implications for his MAGA/tech friends, using “double standards” rhetoric to muffle damaging facts for his own camp. (my objective assessment). Thanks.

I made it 45 minutes. This Tracy guy should never be given such a platform. This is a disgrace.

Timestamps: Yelling More yelling

I can’t believe we only had 15 minutes of Sagaar to debunk all of Tracey’s narratives

The Reid Hoffman highlights are always a nice reminder on where people like Sacks draw their lines

That was a waste of time just 2 hours of Michael Tracey talking about how great of a guy Epstein was

I would love to see another two hours of Sagaar v Michael Tracy. Seems like Sagaar has the receipts but we need more time

We read the files. This is not going to work. God will deal with you all.

I'm an average person, I watched this and about 1/3 of the way through realized it would be better if I didn't watch this.

20 minutes in. Michael Jacey's need to qualify every piece of evidence, or journalist he proports as misleading with sharp words like "bogus" and "scammed", or "shyster"... often without the followup information that explains those qualifiers... screams "im losing this debate"

10min in and this Michael Tracey character is using the age-old ruse of muddying the waters by trying to argue one minute point to claim that everything is therefore a sham. I’ll continue to watch but I’ll be surprised if he actually makes any defensible argument, rather he will continue to obfuscate my attacking minutiae in order to claim some overall victory…

Maybe this needs another try.

i left when saagar left lol. this is nonsense. we can see it with our own eyes and they want us to deny it lol

TY for having Saagar on!! One of the best journalists out there today

The ratio in this video is not gonna look good for All In. Disgusting cover up.

It's nice to see Saagar not sitting next to a screeching harpy. He should do other shows more often

"Epstein mythology?" ! Tracey is compromised, or just plain ignorant. I suspect the first one. Please interview someone who is an actual expert on the E files: Whitney Webb.

Billionaire damage control.

Michael Tracy seems to be arguing like his life depends on it. I wonder who is paying him to lie for Epstein?

Just too painful listening to Michael Tracey defend Epstein. Just word vomit🤮 I'll tune in next week.

Great job, Saagar 🙌. You smoked ‘em.

Saagar Breaking Balls! Best guest yet.

Michael Tracey looks exactly the way you'd expect someone who is making the arguments he is to look. Take that for what you will.

Micheal Tracey: the kids started flirting first

I usually give props to anyone willing to play devils advocate. But man, this is about as literal as the phrase can get.

Hoffman asking for ice cream is odd. He went to island and ranch. He should explain himself

Did M. Tracy study the Florida case? And adult women can be violated and be victims of sex trafficking.

As someone who worked on anti-trafficking technology 20+ years ago, I think we need to bring public awareness. The thing is these elites are just the very small part of the issue. It's actually far worse. The resources we are spending discussing these, would have greater impact on the actual trafficking issue. It's only because of these are public figures, that we are bringing up these to light.

Michael Tracey’s browser history is CRAZY 😂

Oh boy, they finally figured out how to spin the Epstein cover up!! Wonder how they'll explain the incompetence of the Trump doj

The depth of the Reid Hoffman relationship with Epstein explains why the previous administration never did anything on the files. Hoffman is one of, maybe the top, donor to the Democrat party.

Starting to wonder if Tracey shares the same evil proclivities as Epstein. Physiognomy checks out 🤔

Michael is a very good Yeller. Not so much a debater. Too bad Saagar had to bounce early.

Referring to Epstein on a first name basis by Michael is wild. Something is off with him and wouldn’t be surprised if he was a pdfile

What’s Latin for guilty conscience..? Can’t remember. Michaelius Traceyius?

LEGENDARY REFRESH PULL

I can appreciate being a stickler for the truth and holding people accountable for what is said, but I think this guy has lost the plot in pursuit of that end.

I feel bad Saagar had to waste his time on this. EVERYONE Just go watch breaking point for reasoned discussion

Thank you Saggar for standing your ground

In the words of Johnathan Swift "Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through.”

I can't believe you guys asked Michael Tracey to chime in after that horrific Coleman Hughes interview.

Hard to listen when they can’t let each other finish a thought.

This was easily the most embarrassing episode the podcast has put out. Giving Epstein apologists a full hour of unchallenged airtime was a massive failure in judgment. Michael’s talking points were hollow, repetitive, and completely lacking substance, and without someone like Saagar or Krystal there to actually push back, it turned into a one-sided echo chamber. And let’s not pretend there’s any mystery about where Sacks stands: his bias couldn’t have been more obvious. What makes it worse is how this will age. This episode is going to look reckless and deeply unserious, platforming defenses and minimizations around someone as notorious as Jeffrey Epstein without rigorous scrutiny. When more facts are revisited and proven in courts, this will read less like open dialogue and more like a stunning lapse in editorial judgment.

All in staff, take note for your bosses: This was the lowest point in the history of this podcast

Tracy is obviously trying to minimize the severity of Epstein's actions in a gross way. Like he's an attorney for the files

why is this made into a 50/50 debate? A range of viewpoints? Pretending it's about child cannibalism? This is all distraction. What's the evidence. What's the core? I'm struggling to trust Sacks or All-in on this debate at all.

Bro really did the “It’S aCtUaLlY eHeBoPhElIa” meme 🤣

Why are you all giving JE credit for reaching out about Bitcoin when an Intel agency probably asked him to look into it

They are guilty of being complicit and so are you Michael.

the selection of representatives for each "side" gives away the whole op imo.

None of the clients wil ever face justice. There is a law for the rich and a law for the poor. And Israel has deep pockets, that they've filled with US taxpayer's money.

So Michael Tracey is claiming there is an evil global conspiracy of greedy conniving media manipulators such as VRG, who is still alive, to profit from hapless victims like Epstein and Prince Andrew? He can’t see truth before their eyes because they’re so desperate to be contrarian.

I had to fast forward Michael speaking. Whatever side of the argument you sit on, listening to someone shout is annoying. Sagar was brilliant.

Dude, how do you explain all the pictures tho??

This podcast has me appreciate JCal even more as the host/moderator. It is not easy! 😂

Bro this guy is defending Bill Clinton, really? He was only ever inappropriate in the White House, ok my guy. A lot of the emails speak for themselves. Read the ones with Katya Gusarova. They literally detail Epstein flying her in to exchange sex and when Epstein blows her off he sex traffics her to Steve Tisch. There is not code words it’s clearly shown in those emails. So I heard Epstein ate Selena Gomez’s baby yeah definitely fake but that doesn’t mean it all is and all the victims lied.

Over the years, I have come to real realize that David Sachs, pure evil.. hosting this discussion and giving the pro Epstein guy this platform just goes on to prove that David Sacks does not have pure intention intentions.

Like 10 minutes in and I can’t believe these guys have dedicated so much of their life to this guy

Here for saagar 🤙

The title of the video "Epstein mythology" is so revealing about how badly they want this story to go away

Who pays you Michael? WHO PAYS YOU 😂

Why is Reid Hoffman a guest here???

You can tell a lot about a person by their tone when speaking. Tracey sounds sanctimonious and disingenuous. I’m sure some of what he saying is true, but this case is black and white.

Bullshit episode. This michael clown is impossible to listen to.

Saagar best guest ever

This seems like AI the first 60 seconds. Is this why the besties joke he has the 'tism? It seems glitchy, right?

first truly unwatchable pod after Saagar leaves

Mr Michael is definitely getting paid

Lost on Mr Tracey is the natural, and healthy, tendency to question contradiction once it is recognised. Agree on danger of making assumptions, but his froth runs over and weakens his stance. Anyone telling lies in process of distancing themselves will obviously attract follow-up questions. Tracey thinks otherwise - for all his warning of blindly accepting testimony from certain people in this case he wants to attack those who have valid questions of the likes of Hoffman.

At the end it’s sounds like he’s flawing over him. Envy and calling him Jeffery. Odd

Damn, opening is pretty dry without Jcal. That's what she said.

It's like throwing a piece of steak in a pool full of piranhas.

Ski week? Hilarious

Thirty four minutes then a lot of protection of the wealthy simple, i'm not sure how this guy's paid, but he's for nothing happened. The guy died in jail mysteriously.Okay, very similar to how putin gets rid of all of his generals.

A job as a math teacher, albeit in a pampered school like Dalton in UES Manhattan, or a job at Bear Stearns no matter how good a trader was doesn't add up to over a half billion dollars in net worth. And why would a savvy businessman like Wexner give up a large part of his fortune to someone like Epstein unless he had something on the old man or either Jeff or Les or both were a part of the CIA/Mossad nexus to achieve the agencies' agendas around the world for the grifter class. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!

This was an absolute disaster, David. Michael was clearly running “low-IQ” defense for Jeffrey Epstein. He reminds me of a Mentat from Dune, one that they have Kompromat on 😂

I bet Friedberg couldn't get through 15 minutes of this

Nothing like figuring out any way possible to protect/excuse Epstein and cast doubt on/discredit victims. How do you sleep at night???

Saagar’s great

I feel like this discussion would have been better and less annoying if Michael was not a part of it.

Cool. Will you be hosting a panel to discuss the Crypto-driven unprecedented corruption and self-dealing of the President and the Trump family next week? Looking forward to your thoughts - or perhaps we’ll only hear them when you’re required to testify under oath before Congress?

Tracey blames Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking victims and not the powerful men. It is so disgusting.

Tracy is such an absolute clown that his love affair with Jeffrey seems inorganic and implausible.

Michael Tracey on Epstein: Michael: “Why are people calling Epstein a pedophile? It makes no sense and there is no evidence to support it.” Anyone: “But you agree there were minors involved, yes?” M: “Okay, yeah. There was a 17 year-old who had sex with him right before her 18th birthday. That was where his procuring a minor charge came from.” A: “And there were younger victims identified by Palm Beach PD, right.” M: “I guess if you are talking about accusations and not convictions then yes, there were a few 15 and 16 year-olds who have made accusations.” A: “Right, but there were even younger victims, weren’t there.” M: “Okay, let me say this so the internet doesn’t think I’m hiding things. There was a 14 year-old whose mom reported Epstein to the police. That launched the original investigation.” A: “So Epstein sexually assaulted girls age 14, 15, 16, 17. You agree?” M: ‘Look, I’ve never denied that Epstein was a morally corrupt individual who did terrible things.” A: “So you see why people call him a pedophile?” M: “I have no idea why people call Epstein a pedophile. The claim isn’t supported by the facts at all.”

Nice 1hr 47 minute defense of Epstien 👏

Check this dudes hard drives

i like Sacks, but i think this is where JCal has credence to self-proclaimed best podcast moderator title

Saagar 🙌

Michael is wholly unbelievable. His message is classic “rape is the women’s fault”. No respect for the victims of assault, rape Prostitution, trafficking.

This whole entire debate obfuscates from the fact that Epstein is clearly some kind of intel mercenary at the least and a foreign intel asset at worst. I unlike many others watched the Steve Bannon Epstein interview and found nothing intelligent about this man the fact that Bannon wants to present him as some kind of financial tax guru is just ridiculous I lost 1:50 of my life. The fact that the DOJ is going so far to cover up the files by claiming they are still doing investigations and that’s why they can’t release the files is honestly insane to me. If there’s nothing in the files just release them to prove everyone wrong why do all of this performative stuff, especially after this administration ran on releasing the files.

A podcast minimizing the crimes of pedo elites....really makes you think.

This is an absolutely brutal watch. These guys aren’t it… Needed a Sacks Solo pod lol

after saagar left, i left...... i heard all i neeeded to hear outof michael tracey. it was obv where he was going real fast.

Haha. David finally managed to poke his stick at Reid Hoffman. Has been talking about that for weeks. Was that the point of this episode?

Satanic panic?! Mythology?! Holy shit yall missed the mark with this im gonna love the backlash 😂

Tracey really needs to drop the whole "actually it's ephebophilia" thing. People who are paying attention already know these were teenage girls. Insisting on this distinction just makes Tracey look weird and deranged.

Please get Alex Jones on and let him go balls to the wall on this topic 😂

Please do not believe this “mythology” bullshit. Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent. He also worked with the CIA and many rich/influential people. His largest tie being Donald Trump. Let’s not forget that this is a right leaning podcast, ‘owned’ by the Trump party. They’re not covering 95% of what these files prove and who they indite

This whole episode is a waste of time. These guys are just arguing, about what? Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted and pled guilty to working child prostitution schemes with Epsten. So, this guy seems envious that some women , who may or may not have been sexually abused , are receiving payments from Epstein's estate. Oh brother.

On Michael: “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.” Thank you, Sacks.❤

Love the POD, could not get past 10 minutes had to turn it off!

Like watching a high speed ping pong match.

One of your biggest fans all in. I've been listening since episode 10 and the only episode I've ever stopped listening to.

Michael saying he’s never said, “There’s nothing to see here,” struck a chord because independently as I’m listening to the conversation (or rather, Michael never letting anyone finish a sentence or thought without interrupting with his “more important” opinion), I was EXACTLY THINKING, “He’s arguing there is nothing to see here.” So, Michael, that’s what your argument sounds like. It may not be your intent. I think your point is accurate and important. Nobody seems interested in following the money into the lawyers’ and their clients’ pockets. And that’s a miscarriage of justice, absolutely. We should be raising that concern loudly. But it is another thing entirely to say that 20-yr old women had consensual sex with powerful, wealthy men in their 40s, 50s, etc. There is a power dynamic that cannot be ignored and those men ARE responsible for exploiting that power dynamic. When you, or anyone else, minimize that fact, it’s also a miscarriage of justice.

Good show

Nobody hurts Tracey’s credibility more than Tracey. He is absolutely horrible at being interviewed

“I’m not implicating him any crime”, but came out to smear his reputation….. 😂😂

The only podcasts and videos I can find on this topic are the most extreme takes about a global conspiracy. Nice to hear another perspective even though I disagree somewhat with the conclusions. Thank you for sharing this content. I’m sure it was done knowing a huge backlash would come from a significant portion of the audience (despite Sacks clearly making a point to push back on the “nothing to see hear vibe” from the guest)

Clearly this program upset those infused with the Mob Narrative.

Why does Michael Tracey sound like the new Allan Dershowitz?

It’s all getting hot and All-In pod now giving Epstein more and more time which they’ve ignored for ages! That Micheal guy sounds crazy!

The fact that David Sachs would choose Michael Tracey is a major statement to the twisted way David views the political system.

Shame on the Pod for letting Sacks use the show for such a one-sided, self-serving purpose. There might be a place to have a reasonable discussion about this, but that wasn’t the venue for it or the way to do it.

Ain´t it great when young people judge their elders. Epstein was huge before the internet in the 90s and the truth game out in the 0´s. But by 2008 everyone knew what was going on.

I shoulda gone skiing too

Just what the people want, a billionaire moderating an Epstein debate.

This is the most ridiculous defense of something that is so obvious.. high-powered people do not just quit their jobs if it's a nothing burger...

This is more like a TMZ show. Didn't expect this crap from All In podcast.

You should've just had an AI slop pod, it would've crushed

It’s like this Michael Tracy guy doesn’t know that we can just read the files ourselves now and put 2 & 2 together.

Solo Sacks was such a turn off to begin with...but that psycho Michael takes the cake! His baseline is like sad and angry! Doing such a great job at minimizing this scandal about elites. Simply incredible.

Fascinating how a few facts get people so angry

Talking about how a group of elites is able to facilitate crime and enjoy advantages on this show is like asking foxes how to protect a chicken coop

The elites need to understand one thing. We the people of the United States of America are not letting this Epstein situation go away: - The Dow Jones rises above 1,000,000,000,000 in a single day? Where are the Epstein prosecutions? - US invades Iran? Where are the Epstein prosecutions? - A UFO lands on the south lawn of the White House and a hoard of little green men get out and demand to meet with Trump? Where are the Epstein prosecutions? - The second coming of Jesus Christ himself? Where are the Epstein prosecutions?

All I am sure of is that Epstein helped break up Bill and Melinda Gates marriage and I didn't hear it mentioned.

there is evidence from recently released Jeffrey Epstein files (from the U.S. Department of Justice in 2026) that he commissioned and displayed a large painting depicting a scene suggestive of child sacrifice or mass killing of children. Specifically, Epstein ordered a 9-foot by 9-foot reproduction of the 1591 painting The Massacre of the Innocents by Dutch artist Cornelis Cornelisz van Haarlem. This biblical artwork shows Roman soldiers under King Herod’s orders violently slaughtering infant boys (the “Holy Innocents”), ripping them from their mothers’ arms in a graphic scene of infanticide. • It was intended for display in the entryway of his Zorro Ranch in New Mexico. • Emails from his assistant Sarah Kellen in 2011 refer to it explicitly as “the large 9’x9′ canvas… in the entry way where they are killing babies.” • He paid about $2,000 for the custom oil reproduction from a company that makes art copies.

tracey, how do you take your pizza?

never thought they would bring a yelling Epstein fanboy to this show!

Can i get you a drink? (Mr. Cosby?)

Hilarious that Jason is too busy on a “ski week” to appear for the Epstein episode lmfao

it’s convenient that the rest were on a snow trip 😂

Ways to help: Learn the signs of abuse and of trafficking. Most teens are not lured by mysterious millionaires. They are lured by family, friends of friends, teachers, coaches, etc. Unexplained gifts, new clothes or money, or sudden change in behavior can be a warning sign.

They are All-In it.

Finally but it's telling that the rest of the crew is on "ski week". You get all the cool points this week Saks

I genuinely enjoyed listening to Tracy. Everything else is consensus. Good to hear a contrarian view.

Jason, the best moderator in the world, could have saved this episode 😢😂

Michael speaks loudly when it’s unnecessary and feigns confusion about the definitions of straightforward topics; all while talking over people. It’s a great recipe for debate.

Interesting episode, wish more of the besties were able to have input (or at least voices that present arguments/opinions and can be judged on their the merit, rather than how loud/aggressive it's delivered). But some interesting perspectives on the whole topic that I wasn't aware of and makes me look at the various traditional media stories with more skepticism... Definitely a worthwhile listen!

This was a great episode LMAO im all for it

Thankfully I read the comments before listening. Won’t waste my time.

I appreciate sacks call out on Jcall on the pod. But this is the kind of rollercoaster you only go on once

Thanks, David. Thank you for opening my eyes to new angles. I will say all I know about the case is what I hear. I’ve never done any research to see if anybody’s telling the truth.

Please bring on some of the victims so we can get the real story. The fact that there are over 1000 victims, and we need a dead man’s emails to actually address the files is mind blowing! And the men go on….. blah blah blah nothing to see here….

We all need a shower after being tossed into Michael Tracy's word salad. Please ban him...forever.

It’s unfortunate that one of the best sources of current events, markets, technology, and public policy was hijacked by "experts" who chose volume over substance and any attempt to make a point was drowned out by the noise.

How to wreck the All In brand. Get yourself out of there Friedberg 😢

Anyone defending him or not saying publicly about your relationship with him are guilty of human trafficking and raping children. The whole FBI should be fired for withholding this.

We're past the point of downplaying, side-stepping, and rationalizing anything related to Epstein and those who did business with him, legal or not, especially after he was known to be doing shady (illicit) activity with women and underage women. There's no reasonable explanation for his rise to wealth and power. The "rules for thee but not for me" hierarchy of wealthy elites needs to completely unwind, and wealthy and powerful people need to go to jail. There's no other forward from this.

David Sacks forgot to repeat the question from Tara Palmeri, to Michael Tracey, which was asked on Piers Morgan, but for some reason, Michael couldn't hear it. Tara: "A lot of people are wondering this. Are you being paid by any of the men accused by Jeffrey Epstein?" Michael: crickets....crickets...." I can't hear you " "I wish I could respond to whatever nonsense she just blurted out."

This has been interesting. I think a lot of the mystery to this whole thing, was his death. “Suicide” that is what fueled the fire. Then years later these “victims” come out with out naming names. I have asked, if there are pedo’s out there RIGHT now and these victims aren’t naming, aren’t they now guilty?

Back in my day, they did Satanic Panic on D&D and Mtg.

Wasn’t Wexner involved with Jeffries of Abercrombie & Fitch young boys scandal?

Mossad rolling out this goon to run apologetics for their compromat operation

I had a hard time getting through this episode! In fact I couldn’t finish it! Shouldn’t have happened unless Sagar or Whitney Webb were available for the whole pod, brutal! Also needed better moderation. This is the first time I ever felt like I have needed to make a comment.

we're handing the microphone off to date grape dave to talk about the epstien files? hahahaha

Wonderful debate. For a change, mixed perspectives

Thank you for the perspectives

0:37 Brian Armstrong of Coinbase goes by "Kevin Bass" now?

Wonderful debate!

1:35:46 nope❣️. This is so cool thank you❣️

Michael Tracy brings up some good points I haven’t considered. Notably, possible incentives for victims to falsify testimony and media incentives such as driving clicks and impressions to their gated site/article. Sensational stories like these make us all emotional and wanting justice, and I can see how the media might be preying on us all while not being honest. It’s also fascinating that no one’s been prosecuted because of a lack of evidence outside of hearsay in these files. With that said, I eagerly want justice for these victims who were abused and taken advantage of. Especially for any co-conspirators who may have murdered victims. It appears there’s evidence of that in these files and that’s just beyond disturbing. I say a thorough investigation is desperately needed of everyone mentioned in these files. No one is above the law. Regardless of victims or media stretching the truth, there’s clearly a tremendous amount of merit to these files that exposes sinister behavior in the leaders we look up to. It warrants investigations at a minimum, and then any evidence uncovered needs to be brought to court to bring justice.

great to see that Kevin Bass has found something to do after failing med school

This is the first, and hopefully last, time I ever see this Michael Tracey fella. I cannot believe people like this exist.

I honestly like the subtle jabs from Saager. Highly entertaining watching the battle of narratives

Loved this podcast. Great job bringing on Michael Tracey, I know and love saarger and we need this scrutiny on all issues. Nobody smart wants to float in a bubble.

We prefer the og bestie gang! Button

This conversation is really good, but the arguments are hilarious 😂😂😂.

Didnt know if I was going to be able to watch it after seeing Saagar and Michael continue to banter but so glad I did. Found the other side of the debate very interesting. Thanks Michael!

Great All In episode!

Oh man! One of the greatest crossover episodes of all time

Didn’t think its was possible for this podcast to fall further, but here we are…

thanks for airing a serious investigation in to this matter.

Thank you Saagar and Ryan grim etc for doing some real journalism on this... Micheal has an incredible Alan Dershowitz impression.

I just can’t do this