Comments

Next episode better include David Sacks' thoughts on Peter Thiel leaving to Argentina. Surely he texted his buddy. Genuinely curious because Thiel seems to be ahead of the curve on a lot of things.

Would jcal dress up as a rabbi and mock him ? I got a feeling he won’t

This podcast would never mock a Jew in this same way. I wonder why?

I sometimes wonder how different this pod would be if they were on the Anthropic cap table

I'm not even Catholic and that seems like a gross thing to do.

Jcal was spot on that people don’t want jobs, they NEED those jobs.

This is an infuriating episode. Things never scrutinized on this show. How the 'unemployment rate' is calculated and the different kinds that exist, equating 'job openings' with jobs, and not giving specifics about matching job gains with specific companies; meaning did all 8,000 Meta employees start their own company making the same salary that they were making before? Of course not.

Jcal…. Let the guys speak once you have given your opinion. Just because they disagree with you doesn’t mean you need to shut them down. That’s called a discussion not a teacher / student relationship.

Elon fired 50% of the twitter staff due to bloat not AI

Talk about skirting the issue. MIT's Daron Acemoglu, a Nobel Prize winning economist, has shown that it took 80 years for labour to adjust to the impacts of the first industrial revolution. Yes, workers eventually ended up with better life outcomes. But it took eight decades to get there with a lot of displacement and suffering in the meantime. So, instead of being so willfully dismissive of these facts, Bill Gurley, perhaps you should acknowledge the real adjustment costs that AI is certain to impose across a broad swathe of society. See "Power and Progress" co-authored with MIT's Simon Johnson.

"So you show empathy by scaring people?" might be my favorite quote in this episode.

$5K grant to change your career? What are you doing, selling a bunch of bananas?

Narcissism, greed, lust for money and power...it would sound familiar to every generation before us.

Sorry J Cal is making me stop watching

Sacks is 100% correct that Govt itself is a candidate capable of seizing the power of AI and using it against the people. We do need to guard against the corporations who are developing AI, as well as the government , from consolidating all of that power.

J Cal you are being sacrilegious

I would strongly encourage Bill Gurley to educate himself a bit better about Leo XIII comments on the industrial revolution. Just ask AI, it was not that hard to avoid a very bad take

Anthropic partnering with all these religious organizations and talking about ethics and morals, feels like a setup for regulatory capture. Get governments to impose requirements, ban open source competition, and defend false undeserved margins. Sorry I don’t want one woke company monopolistically ruling over us.

One topic that no one is discussing is intellectual property rights and copyright being engulfed by the big AI companies without compensation for the owners, creators of content. Google is the very best example of this and what they are doing with YouTube content. They are basically stealing from content creators by demonetizing their original content and making it available through their AI. I'd welcome a discussion on this.

Jeez, jcal, stop interrupting….

Tasteless opening. skipping this one

I'm an atheist that loves this podcast and damn.....lost a lot of points

The arrogance of the billionaires in plain sight, very evident in the way they talk and behave.

Jason is spot on about job losses, either other podcast member don't have any idea what going on in big corporate or they prefer to lie/ignore due to their vested interest in AI related investment. just wait for year end.

There is major flaw in the industrial revolution analogy that they're overlooking (or intentionally dismissing): AI and robotics will eventually be able to perform any conceivable job faster and cheaper than any human.

Sacks realizing the producer Nick automated it with Claude is pure gold!

No Friedberg? Sultan Score = 0

Jcal, what's wrong with you?!

I am catholic and this is disgraceful. Men who think they are Gods. When talking about the Pope you guys sound like a bunch of congressmen talking to tech experts about technology. You are 100% clueless. The criticism of Pope Leo XIII is based on a straw man. Rerum Novarum did not condemn technology, innovation or private property. In fact, Leo XIII strongly defended private ownership and explicitly rejected socialism. His concern was that industrial progress must not come at the cost of human dignity. Clearly you have zero actual knowledge of what you are talking about, which makes me question what actual knowledge you do have. The podcast lists shorter working hours, safer workplaces, declining child labor and better wages as proof that Leo XIII was wrong and you all laugh, but those are precisely the kinds of improvements Pope Leo XIII he argued were morally necessary. Economic growth and worker protections are not opposites. A healthy society needs both. I love it when uninformed people laugh at a position they are CLEARLY uninformed on. Maybe skip it next time so you don't look like a fool. The same principle applies to AI. Pope Leo XIV is not saying that AI is evil or that progress should stop. He is asking whether technology will serve the human person and the common good, or whether human beings will be reduced to data points, replaceable workers and subjects of surveillance. We can debate the proper role of regulation. Catholics do not have to endorse every proposed policy. But the deeper principle is profoundly Christian: the economy and technology exist for the human person, not the human person for the economy or technology. Jesus Christ never treated people as tools. Neither should we. There is a lot that can be learned from this faith. Clearly none of you have spent a moment chasing anything but wealth. We all worship something. You.... Money.

The tech elite’s response to Pope Leo’s AI warnings exposes their massive blind spot. Instead of addressing real economic fears, tech investors blame the media for "AI washing" to protect their own interests. They downplay the grueling, 1984-style conditions everyday people face just to secure employment, while refusing to call out Elon Musk's fantasy of a work-free paradise.Their proposed solution for displaced workers is laughably out of touch: just go into plumbing, electrical work, or carpentry. They completely ignore the older generation who physically cannot transition to heavy manual labor but cannot afford to retire.The elites casually suggest people can just "choose to live off-grid," but they mask the grim truth. This is about ultimate wealth and control. If you cannot sell your soul to their tech or break your back in a trade, you will be forced onto off-grid communal farms just to stay alive. It is a terrifying lack of compassion masked as progress.

I didn’t think Pope Leo 13 was against the industrial age. He expressed concern about conditions of the working classes, defending the right to private property and labor unions, and criticizing both unbridled capitalism and socialism.

Can we please put a limit on Jason? Too much noise too little substance.

Gurley’s analysis of Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum is completely wrong. He did not speak out against the Industrial Revolution or technology. He was addressing the worsening conditions of workers in the Industrial Age of the 19th century while ALSO dismantling the Communist’s argument that those problems could only be solved through the dissolving of private property rights. His solution was to recommend new institutions such as labour unions that could offer practical mechanisms to protect human dignity. Not only did Leo XIII make one of the most compelling arguments against communism, but his contributions were important in allowing the Industrial Revolution to advance in ways that delivered all the benefits Gurley is using to disparage the man and the Papacy.

What? The industrial revolution got rid of child labor? Capitalism did that? Uh, no. Someone needs to read a book about Lewis Hine.

Jcal appears to be more emotional than usual. He needs to stop using volume and talking over others as 'a debate winning strategy '.

22:47 I agree Sacks, separation of powers is good which is why you should stop lobbying to forbid States from regulating AI!

J-Cal is Trostsky and this audience is not stupid and knows exactly what Sacks was taking about

Beware of those who claim to want to "protect" you.

Actually, most of what Pope Leo XIII and his 1891 encyclical Rerum Novarum (“Of New Things”), did and are still happening: •Wealth and power concentrated into the hands of elites. •Workers are treated like tools / commodities. (The tech industry has had to go to H-1B visas because they've used and abused employees to their own detachment.) •Extreme inequality between owners and laborers. •Financial monopolies controlling credit and labor markets. •Endless profit-seeking eroding morality and family life. •Social unrest and class conflict growing if workers were abused. (Does Suchir come to mind?) Just say'n. Why do you think DARPA started AI?

The pope is not anti capitalism; the popes have strongly condemned communism and socialism. The pope here raises concerns of dignity of the human person and the Catholic Church has always supported to the free market providing good things such as fair wages and working conditions. But Capitalism didn’t solve child labor, it was regulation that the governed wanted and demanded from their representatives. With the dawn of AI, we can see concerns growing in the same way the early industrial age produced ills that with time went away precisely because the people demanded sane regulation.

Again, How about few episodes per year WITHOUT Jason?!!

JCAL - is "transitioning" more and more FROM a "Moderator" TO a "Dominator". Give others some BANDWIDTH. Starting to get more and more TEDIOUS.

I think the Pope was warning against the powerful - I don't think he separated large multinational companies and government (tyrannical governments often target the church). As for Bill's flippant reference to the industrial revolution - it did make the world more comfortable (and that is good) but it has also left us with more broken homes, higher levels of suicide, more violence, higher levels of theft...in short a moral wasteland. Comfort is not always proportional to quality. But boy, in every other issue, is Bill both inciteful and insightful - no wonder his book has a course built round it.

I found it interesting how Bill Gurley discussed his thoughts on the Pope's encyclical. He decided to bring up the 1891 Pope's encyclical on industrialization and how wrong he said that Pope got it. He ran off a list of stats showing all the ways the industrial revolution benefitted people and then said the Pope got it completely wrong. This ignores all of the bad things that came out of industrialization and the fact that most of the good things he claimed happened, only happened in an environment of government regulation. Think of all the environmental damage done before legislators finally stepped in and we set up the EPA. Think of how badly workers were treated before unionization happened as well as OSHA and other workplace safety regulations were put in place. I can't stand it when people give purposefully misleading information just to make their point seem better than it is.

The idea that there will be an explosion of new small businesses is possibly a little simple in thought. Being a business owner is more than having a great idea and applying AI. Don’t underestimate the responsibility of running a business (accounting, compliance, financial management). Our society is addicted to a regular, safe pay check. In addition to this, the idea that a business will just cut jobs because AI makes it more efficient is also a little simple in thought. Good businesses are always looking for growth opportunity. A portion of businesses will look for growth opportunities with current staff levels rather than looking to reduce staff numbers.

I love how you guys got fired up towards the end of the podcast. Listen, we don’t know who’s right we know AI is gonna do a lot of jobs. We don’t know where this is gonna take us, but I have faith in humanity that we will solve the problems that we need to solve. ❤🇺🇸🙏

Jcal is obviously correct about the drivers being displaced.

Jcal…when you are speaking , you are not letting others chime in because you want to make your point. Why don’t you do that when the others are speaking as well. Don’t cut them when they are speaking their mind.

I've never seen JCal more annoying than in this episode. His insecurity was on parade! I just had a discussion with Grok about it, and apparently this type of banter is what makes this podcast so appealing.

Anthropic told us Mythos was too dangerous to release then they released it. It’s a marketing game they play to advance their position in the AI industry.

How about an additional podcast where Sacks and Chamath discuss interesting topics calmly rationally and nobody interrupts? 😊

Put it this way, do you think Dario should be the most powerful person on earth? No thanks.

JCal is correct on the job loss and sympathy is warranted

1:25:25 Jason, please be a moderate moderator. David had the minimum input but due to scarcity, some of us wanted to hear his thoughts over the repetitive “that’s my position” you continue to state, over and over.

1:30:39 Push back: The workers didn’t get that memo either, Sacks. What we are actually witnessing is a pathetic attempt by the AI sector to deploy a new PR strategy. They want to stabilize markets and smooth over regulatory environments ahead of upcoming IPOs and massive data center builds. This sudden "oops, we were wrong" pivot on job displacement isn't fooling anyone. In fact, it’s an insult to our intelligence. It is completely obvious you're just adjusting the message to manage the inevitable fallout. It smacks of other famous gaslighting attempts: 'Inflation is transitory,' 'The COVID vaccine prevents transmission,' 'Iran wants a deal,' 'COVID came out of the wet market.' and my all-time favorite: This will only hurt a little bit.' It’s actually quite hilarious to watch.

Jason just ask the question please don’t then answer it as well it’s so tiresome

Jason is always so defensive, he’s closed minded, can’t stand the idea that he might be wrong. The era upon us won’t be good for anyone with an entrenched position, claiming to be a champion for others isn’t real, and his friends have tried to help him see this. What’s coming is a huge opportunity, one we can all use for good, trying to hold it back because the predominant position in the west is fear, runs the risk that other parts of the world will be more progressive. Keep an open mind, use AI to help yourself and those closest and do something super useful that you believe in.

Jason interrupts so much I find this hard to watch

It’s crazy when Biden was in office this podcast was heavy politics / economics. Now all of their people are in charge and there’s inflation, wars, terrible foreign and domestic policy, increasing wealth gap, Peter Thiel leaving America and Trump not fulfilling his promises and terrible execution on the ones he is doing these guys wanna talk nothing but tech. Cowards.

Guys you all make great points about job losses, however the main point about job losses for the low ranks, perhaps low skilled workers that will loses their jobs in areas like package sorters, cab drivers, truck drivers etc directly impact low wage workers and this segment of the population will be SOL with no real alternatives. This is highly differentiated by tech employees who understand the technology coming (ie, Meta, Fang employees) who should be able to rebound and comprehend technology jobs shifts more efficiently than low skilled workers period. This will increase the disparity between HNW workers and those who are less skilled, we need to find a fix for this population specifically if this tech will be able to succeed.

"higher level of work" Does that mean everyone is going to be the CEO of the company? give me a break. Tasks are the purpose of workers. There can only be a hand full of "high level" of work in a company. 25% at most. the rest 75% is getting fired.

Holy shit jcal is hard to listen to sometimes.

Jason, please get Susan Kokinda of Promethean Action on your podcast!!!!!!!

You guys should give your top 3 must read books. Similar to what Chamath did in his separate video

JCal: “ I don’t go to graduate school. I need another reference” 😂😂😂😂

Can Bill even be bothered to read the AI summary of Rerum Novarum on Google? What an ignorant take.

Thank you, David, for all you do. 🇺🇸🥳🎉

Oh boy you guys are gonna catch heat for this one 😂😂😂

Sacks comments on the unemployment rate being low ignore that the labor participation rate has deceased in the last year. About 3 million Americans stopped looking for work so they aren’t counted on unemployment employment numbers. If they we were counted unemployment numbers would be 6-7%. Deplorable

Jason’s point about needing vs wanting a job and needing some humility is so right on. Chamath, I love you, but you’re wrong on that point. More importantly, having work, even that you don’t like, is foundational to the self worth (especially of men) and the potential for radicalization due to the elimination of those role should not be underestimated.

Thank you David Sacks!

Be really interesting to see where AI is in 5 years !

Openly mocking the Faith. Unsubscribed.

I am shocked that the government AI Czar downplays AI induced job loss.

Shouty man is very fixed in his view. No matter all the nuances presented from everyone else. It’s quite exhausting. Other than that it’s been a very interesting conversation, thank you gentlemen. X

Spicy episode. Jerry Springer has returned!

Job postings means nothjng when they don't hire

Ai is serving me just fine. And i'm scrub. People don't understand AI is going to democratize fields that normies would never have had access to in the past.

1:13:32 - When do I get to hear what David Sacks has to say? How many times do you get to finish what you were saying before he gets to talk?

welcome back Sacks

Having a conversation about job loss is not having a conversation about the lack of job growth

Jason, chill out

JCal should stop pretending he is on the same intellectual level of the other bestie. He is not, period.

Pretty clear Sack’s isn’t using AI himself.

“Every truck driver Losing their job” lmao wrong

Omg!!! FIGHT TIME!! uahaiuaiuha I love to see freaking amazing brilliant ppl having heated arguments!! roflol 1:21:50 hightligh moment of the podcast!! LOVE you guys, plz stay friends :)

Jason, limit your rants to 25% of podcast duration.

When elon took over twitter, slash 80% jobs. Not cause of AI

One area not covered is the fact that even though software jobs may go up, the salaries will go down as AI coding progresses. I’ve seen with my own eyes sr engineer positions making 200k+ , get replaced by inexperienced beginners who get paid much less and are instructed to follow AI troubleshooting prompts.

great pod !! more of this please

thanks jcal for making it spicy we need more of it

Truck drivers will change rolls. Sure automated driving will happen, but who unloads the truck, interacts with clients, manages breakdowns on the road - even check cleaning and maintenance on the end of each run. What is more likely to happen is that drivers will have more opportunity to do other tasks while the truck drives, and on longer haul trips may have one driver for a train of 5-10 trucks.

All these brilliant minds are missing the fact that the consumers who will supposedly buy all these new software and amazing new services and products driven by amazing AI productivity growth, are the ones losing their jobs and incomes. What’s the point if there’s no income to buy more stuff?

People need jobs. Without jobs, there will be anarchy.

Let’s see what these criminals are trying to profit from this week.

Jcal, every adult should know who Leon Trotsky was. If you don't, you should look him up. It is not elitist or obscure knowledge.

I will not listen to another episode until Jason is gone

Watching this podcast and reading the comments in my weekly feel good practice. I feel so moderate and sane

Glad the pod has unique points of view.

the pope is a fellow villanova graduate \V/ as is jalen brunson, go ’nova!

Way to go Jason, you just insulted a gigantic swath of us loyal Catholics that subscribe to your Podcast. Wait a minute.. the Pontiff himself has already done a sufficient job of that, and you finally found a hat you look good in that fits the shape of your mug!

Spicy episode just like back in the day with their original episodes. Probably the first hundred!! Loved it!❤

man I love when Jason gets funny, it makes me wish I could be a fly on the wall when these homies are hangin tight and drinking and just having fun.

Here to watch the people spending all my tax money. lol.

The media is far from qualified as the intellectually elite.

The unemployment numbers are garbage. The government has been juking the stats for ages. 4.5% is risible. Include the numbers for people who are underemployed, working multiple low income jobs with zero benefits, and people earning less than the poverty level and the number is north of 25%.

17:35 I love blathering with Claude, have been for weeks, . It's life changing JCal

The Industrial Revolution was terrible for like 70 years People moved to cities worked a lot and were very poor And then people demanded more rights and then wealth was shared and then people had better lives But at the start it was terrible

I started laughing immediately 😂😂😂😂

Two centuries ago everyone was a farmer... 95% lost their job. Oh, the humanity!

Thank you, Nick and David, for putting the prompt on screen. Loved seeing this! 13:40

Some commentary and clarification on Bill Gurley's thoughts regarding Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on AI: The main issue I took with his statement is that he was saying Leo XIII was completely wrong when he wrote his encyclical regarding industrialization. His only framing of that encyclical is that Leo XIII "warned that industrialization was going to be bad for people" and later said he was warning against "technology, innovation, and capitalism". BG then cited a number of ways in which workers have benefited in between 1891 and today and said that "all those things happened because of technology, innovation, and capitalism" and that Pope Leo XIII got it "dead wrong". BG is making your classic straw man argument here. First of all, this is a huge mischaracterization of Pope Leo XIII's encyclical. He wasn't simply saying that industrialization "was going to be bad for people". Here is Claude Opus 4.8's max effort thinking mode summary of this encyclical: "The Problem It Addressed Leo XIII confronted the "new things" of his era: the conflict between capital and labor, the exploitation of industrial workers, and the social dislocation caused by rapid industrialization. He saw the suffering of workers—poverty, unsafe conditions, and powerlessness—as a moral issue demanding the Church's attention, rejecting the idea that religion should stay out of "worldly" economic matters. The Dignity and Primacy of Labor The encyclical placed the dignity of work and workers at the forefront, affirming that human beings have a fundamental value that takes precedence over capital and profit. Workers are persons, not merely instruments of production. Fair Wages Leo affirmed the right to a wage sufficient to support oneself and one's family—not merely whatever the market would bear. This established the principle that just remuneration must account for human needs, not only productivity. Private Property He defended private property as a natural right with an indispensable social role, rejecting socialist proposals to abolish it. However, the Church's tradition has never treated property as absolute—it carries obligations toward the common good. Workers' Associations The encyclical esteemed workers' associations (including what would become labor unions), affirming the right of workers to organize to protect their interests. Cooperation Over Class Struggle Rather than the Marxist framework of inevitable class conflict, Leo proposed cooperation between the different components of society—employers and workers each bearing mutual duties and responsibilities. The Role of the State He argued the state has a genuine responsibility to protect workers and promote the common good through just laws, while respecting the proper autonomy of individuals, families, and intermediary institutions. Legacy Pope Pius XI later called it the "Magna Carta" of Christian social action, and it became the foundational text of modern Catholic Social Doctrine—the very tradition that subsequent popes (including Leo XIV on artificial intelligence) have continued to develop in response to the "new things" of each succeeding era." Now that we're able to see what Leo XIII was really saying regarding industrialization, I hope you can plainly see the license BG took here and how inaccurately he portrayed the 1891 encyclical on industrialization. Leo XIII wasn't saying that industrialization was going to be bad for people and that technology, innovation, and capitalism are bad or would not make people better off, he was merely pointing out many of the problems that existed due to industrialization at that time and called for fair wages, dignity of workers and of work, supported private property rights but emphasized the responsibility that goes with those rights, rejected Marxist-Communist ideas of class conflict and suggested workers and employers work together, supported workers' associations (i.e., unions) and the right of workers to organize to protect their interests, and argued the government has a responsibility to protect workers and promote the common good through just laws, while respecting the proper autonomy of individuals, families, and intermediary institutions. Now I don't know about you, but to me it sounds like he was far from "dead wrong". In fact it sounds like he hit the nail on the head. And the benefits that BG cited as being attributed to technology, innovation, and capitalism are very misleading and only partially true at best. For one thing, he completely excludes all of the negatives that came out of the Industrial Revolution, some of which we are still dealing with today, like the effects of global warming, for instance, and the ongoing effects of pollution, for another. BG gives 100% of the credit for all of those gains to technology, innovation, and capitalism whereas I would argue all of those gains came as a combination of technology, innovation, and capitalism, along with legislation and regulation (things like the creation of the EPA and OSHA) and unionization of workers (which is largely credited for the creation of the 40-hour work week as well as overtime pay and many other benefits now considered industry standards). But the truth is, all that didn't agree with the narrative that BG wanted to put forth, which is that technology, innovation, and capitalism are great and brought this long list of benefits to workers around the world and Pope Leo XIII was wrong. He was then using this false assertion that Leo XIII was completely wrong, saying "so it's an interesting thing to say you're borrowing from" in regards to Pope Leo XIV and his encyclical on the dangers of AI which calls for "deliberate human and ethical choice in shaping AI—keeping the dignity of the person at the center—rather than letting technological or market logic dictate the future on its own." (Again, according to a summary provided by Claude Opus 4.8's max effort, thinking mode.) By setting up the straw man of his Leo XIII argument and then knocking it down, he then goes on to imply that Leo XIV is wrong in his encyclical because it is based in the same (falsely asserted) core principles of Leo XIII's encyclical. But, since we now see that Leo XIII was actually quite right in his prescription for curbing the worst outcomes of the industrial revolution, perhaps what we should actually take away from this is that Pope Leo XIV might be on to something and perhaps we should not dismiss his encyclical entirely but instead learn from it and figure out how to incorporate some of its ideas into this AI revolution.

Hello Saint Jason. Amen 🙏🏻

Yes. Thank you for the shout-out to Tulsi!

Great show. Jason is a pretty funny guy. I really liked the points Bill brought today.

I have always questioned a person who feels they are 100% right on a techological outcome with no possibility that an alternative might exist. I have worked with several such people and there requirements and product specifications were limited to a narrow scope. When we found that the narrow view could be expanded as well as the specs and requirements, everyone has to scramble to modify the process or product to the alternative not considered, because of their rigid position. This came to mind as Jcal spoke about AI job loss.

Great show gentlemen! 💪🔥

Dang! Chamath as usual always right on point 🚀

JCAL was on point regarding AI job displacement . Although Sacks and Chamath have good points but come on those tech job firings are because of AI . Let's get real here .

i love it. the best arguments came near the 80% mark of the video. almost skipped out early and missed that haha

Well done guys !! Very Spirited Discussion ... 👍

Great podcast! I agree in the end more jobs will be created. But like elevator operators, jobs will go away!

58:15 lol so true

Good show this week 😂

jason went hard on this one. love it

Here here, Chamath! Tulsi is the Best of the Best and we wish her husband well in his fight against this horrible form of cancer. Love and prayers to them both!

When Cali can lay enough high speed rail that it connects two stops I’ll start believing that cars will become fully autonomous

Great debate today. Enjoyed the AI job topic. I see both sides. Only time will tell!

Great one this week, especially when DS is on. Love you guys.

One person in the podcast did not get the memo that we need to bring the layoff temperature fear down.

We need this kind of discussion. Not one that is totally slanted in one direction. The good, the bad and the ugly of the subject matter. 👍

We will reach a point where it simply doesn't matter.

I love the book! Bill Gurley ❤

Bill I responded to Pontifex with the same info you quoted. To reduce poverty to zero AI is needed. Unfortunately the reduction in secular poverty has been offset by an increase in spiritual poverty.

LMAO!! Too funny of an opening!!

Thank you all for all your hard works!

Thanks for the information

excellent discussion start to finish but the last 30 minutes or so of debate about the AI jobs doomerism topic is must watch. Entertaining, informative, thought provoking.

Great episode! The comments are 🔥🔥🔥!!! 😂 ❤

I got the Trotsky reference.

Finally something to like from JCal, nice rant at the end that showed concern for the common man. 👏 Thanks 🙏

Jason- I applaud to call out the job loss

Bill sounds like Hard Bob from Billions

Jcal is totally right about short term job loss. He’s also been saying this for the last year (although I disagree his reasoning in the past)

What I feel is - for these frontier models to exist or be relevant in few years (models being commoditized) and they having no access to enterprise data like Snowflake, Salesforce, Databricks etc. so only option they have to build the influence before these companies figure things out. Anthropic will do anything possible to build a moat and replace/kill any competition and that may be even engineers at these org.

Guys, this is hilarious and yes, I used to be a Catholic

For the first time in History, there is the ability to AUDIT any government in real time and they are petrified. Governments have turned against the People LONG AGO. Look at Europe, South Africa, Biden, China, Australia, Britain. Brussels, Davos....the list is endless. AI must be used AGAINST Government over reach.

What a great episode! It get's really exciting around 1 hour, 9 minutes. Some of the shows best content ever.

Absolutely crazy how the hour went from flakey backslapping to a serious discussion of ideas. Trotsky continues to roll in his grave, ice pick included.

thanks Jcal

“Jcal F. Bomb is truly spectacular. I especially admire how the ‘no swearing’ policy has evolved into more of a philosophical guideline than an actual rule😂😂 “ we should have humility on this fucking podcast “ @1:12:08

I like access to pure data. Often AI is using older data OR conclusions made by someone on the data and not the pure data.

Student debt means u can’t quit a job i dont love … thats many ppl.

Regarding trucking, if the truck is self driving you’ll need someone to direct it from the office as it needs to be told where to go. Meaning more dispatchers with more to do

Loved the passion and defense by Jcal. Going through job loss is not easy!

I started my own AI consultancy in December 2022. I work with law firms and help them adopt AI. Business is booming and I am now working with former FBI criminal investigators on white collar crime using forensic financials. Having started early, I am way ahead in the legal industry. For my top attorneys, I am working with them shoulder-to-shoulder to become Claude Native Lawyers. I have been moving up Maslow’s Hierarchy of AI. After 35+ years in enterprise software I left corporate. I have never felt more free. Since Dec 2022, I got my paralegal certification as a way to have APIs to the legal industry and my clients.

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Gurley’s thesis on the outcome of the industrial revolution was well thought out and spot on. I think the age of robots will have a similar effect as the domestication of animals for farming and as livestock. It will fundamentally improve the state of humanity if handled properly and distributed widely

This is why I watch this podcast. I come for the spicy arguing.

22:38 a modern - “who watches the watchman” from the graphic novel “Watchman”

Jason bestie' great AI jobs debate was superb, reminded me of the Gladiator movie scenes where Maximus, "The Spaniard" entertaining the blood thirsty Roman crowd with his combat skills, To entertain modern Rome Capital markets the AI Gladiators should make more heads (jobs) roll, run the animal spirits of the markets high, however Maximus would fight till the end, win and restore the state! So the show must go on , best wishes :)

Wonderful podcast so good to see you all !! Que ,that music baby !!

This was a very good discussion. It makes you think on whether ai is heading

Love the way you guys argue, please do not hold back

great session...tension = authenticity

I love the “all in” podcast👊🏽

I enjoyed the sharp debate on the AI Jobs (or job loss) at the 1:00 hour mark. Keep it up! It illuminates the complexity of the AI impact predictions.

Intense discussion today boys. Sacks and Chamath, I posted my disbelief of AI job displacement almost 2 years ago on linkedin. I am going to keep it up there as my receipt.

Ok guys your strategic positioning on both sides of the argument with heated exchange (perhaps deliberately planned) worked on me. Thanks for a great lesson in how to capture an audience

absolutely love this pod, hope u guys never stop, thank you.

Great debate, everyone. Points received, logic absorbed, brain cells intact.

帰宅後、面白い動画を探していたら、久々に「All In」が目に付きました。 そして視聴結果❣️ スゴく面白くて、知的好奇心が爆裂💥💥💥しております🤩🤩🤩💕❣️❣️❣️

thank you all for doing this you guys are incredible and fun to watch each week, show us some of napa valley

Best Show in a long time 👏 29:00 Min - “Decentralised “ are we talking Bittensor ?

J Cal is a brilliant host and I enjoy listening to all of the hosts.

Another excellent show. The Cuban quote "It's whether you use AI to learn faster than ever or use Ai to not learn at all" reminds me of the introduction of PCs in the early 80s. I suspect the disruption of AI will be very similar to that of the PC; it definitely displaced a lot of jobs, but it also created a lot of jobs in other areas.

So awesome hearing Mike Rowe works being bright up on this podcast!

Book is amazing lot of great insight of the journey of people who ran down their dreams. Great read and inspiring.

1:20:30 this is such a beautifully simple way of explaining why AI will create new jobs that anyone without can understand 😊

I have loved referring to someone as a measurer.

0:57 the opening lines here were too much😂

Learning to learn is very vital. Since leaving university (I am now dating myself) I have learned how to use computers (hardware), programs (software), internet, mobile phones, social media and now AI all while staying up with changes in my industry. I still love learning.

Bill, thank you for offering reskilling options. Wish there could have been more convo about that!

Bravo J Cal! Though it’s the first time I’ve said it, You shine in this one. Thank you

You guys rock - I love the banter, honest debate, and the diverse perspective on job situations. To the point on blue collar job growth, please go check out Mike Rowe's ("Dirty Jobs") podcast - Bill just mentioned Microworks Can you all put on your future podcast docket an episode where you focus on education today and the future of education and what AI can do to help folks who do need to go thru a job transition. Thanks and keep up the great work guys!

Hearing Jason’s defense and offense is more remanence of mainstream media. But healthy debate. 👏👏👏

Solid episode!

32:34 Frankenstein theory is next level

Besties discussing about AI potentially becoming a deity when Prof Jiang was talking about it since the beginning(when people think its a delulu idea)

Pod in its true form this week. Ball knowledge pod. Just missed my king

"Do you use Ketamine?" 🤣🤣🤣

I'm here for Bill. for a channel that talks so much about tech, the first time I hear Kubernetes mentioned. His point was SPOT ON 🎯

Just tell the truth. For maintaining freedoms and happiness enable the family to own the energy they need.

The guy who read the "Franenstein" model left out the words in parentheses - about being based on human values.

i am going to change the arguing part into italian, so it is funny and less likely to make me cry

Just as an FYI, Rackspace is partnering with AMD for private AI for finance, healthcare, government and other sectors with sensitive information that needs to be confidential and protected.

Chamath needs to specifically respond to the lost jobs Jcal listed: Truck drivers, warehouse workers, etc will all be out of work.

I guess you guys didn’t see the commencement speech where each time the speaker said AI the students booed.

Finally someone said this about Anthropic. They are definitely trying to gain regulatory control

Producer Nicks first appearance!!

13:37 All-In Daily Briefing Skill

Love seeing Bill G.

If it isn't imposed upon us, we will demand it be ours.✌😎

1:27:25 Chamath misspoke when he said “Kirkland & Ellis” is going to “roll their own frontier model”. Reuters explicitly describes it as a “custom AI platform” that’s “built around existing models”, with the firm planning to license some third-party AI programs.

great podcast

As an industry, with an eye to the vitality of acronyms, can we please create an alternative to Control Plane?

at 58.30... This reminds me of when I purchased my first transportable Phone from Motorola for $499. My first month phone bill was over $1,800.

The tokens are kind of like paying for long distance phone service 40 years ago now it's free. The future looks bright

17:09 love everything about what you’re saying here. I think one issue people will run into is they’ll be on a free or maybe $20 account at this level. Not knowing how to prompt or what model setting to have Claude on will run a user into usage caps fast. What that will in turn do is have people stop trying to work with Claude all together out of frustrations. Power users of course get this on a $20, $100, or $200 account. But for those whom you’re speaking of will run into that wall. To give Open AI credit letting them choose the model is a simpler entry point.